Joker 2 Stumbles as Terrifier 3 Dominates Box Office Weekend

Joker: Folie à Deux faces a dramatic box office decline, overshadowed by the surprising success of Terrifier 3, which leads the domestic market with strong opening figures.
SummaryJoker: Folie à Deux is experiencing a significant decline at the box office, marking the worst second-week drop for a DC character film and the superhero genre, with a projected $7.055 million in its second weekend. In contrast, Terrifier 3, a slasher sequel, is outperforming expectations with a projected $18.3 million opening weekend, topping the domestic box office. The steep drop for Joker 2 is attributed to negative reviews and poor audience reception. Meanwhile, other films like The Wild Robot and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice are maintaining their positions, while new releases like Piece by Piece are underperforming. Despite Joker 2’s struggles, Terrifier 3’s success offers hope for the October box office, having already turned a profit with its modest budget.

Update on October 13, 2024, by Brennan Klein

Joker 2 and Terrifier 3’s Box Office Performance

The latest box office projections have shown a surprising turn of events. Joker: Folie à Deux has not made the expected impact in its second weekend, while Terrifier 3 has exceeded expectations with a strong opening.

Box Office Breakdown

Originally projected to follow the success of its 2019 predecessor, Joker: Folie à Deux has fallen short, opening worldwide with over $100 million less than the original Joker film. Meanwhile, Terrifier 3, featuring Art the Clown (David Howard Thornton), has gained momentum, particularly appealing to the Halloween audience.

According to Deadline’s Sunday update, Terrifier 3 is set to top the domestic box office with a projected $18.3 million for its 3-day opening weekend. This figure surpasses the entire theatrical run of Terrifier 2, which earned $15.7 million worldwide. In stark contrast, Joker 2 is expected to bring in only $7.055 million in its second weekend, an alarming 81.3% drop from its initial $37.7 million domestic opening.

Record-Breaking Drops

This drastic decline positions Joker: Folie à Deux as having the worst second-week drop for any film based on a DC character. It also suffers the steepest drop in the superhero genre, surpassing previous flops like The Marvels (78.1%) and Shazam! Fury of the Gods (69%). Box Office Mojo further reports that this represents the 20th worst third-week drop in domestic box office history, pushing 1991’s Return to the Blue Lagoon (80.8%) to 21st place.

Domestic Box Office Top 5

Terrifier 3: $18.3 million

The Wild Robot: Maintains its No. 2 position

Joker: Folie à Deux: Falls to No. 3

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice: Slips to No. 4 with $7.05 million

Piece by Piece: Debuts at No. 5 with $3.8 million

Other Box Office Movements

Transformers One has dropped from the Top 5, now at No. 6 with a $3.65 million gross, bringing its domestic total to $52.8 million. Despite recently crossing $100 million worldwide, it remains unclear if it has recouped its budget, estimated between $75 and $147 million.

Blumhouse’s Speak No Evil has slipped to No. 11 with $1.5 million, a 46% decline, though primarily due to the influx of new releases.

Anime film My Hero Academia: You’re Next and the re-release of Nightmare Before Christmas debuted at No. 8 and No. 9, earning $3 million and $2.3 million, respectively.

Despite critical acclaim, the SNL dramedy Saturday Night and the Donald Trump biopic led by Sebastian Stan underperformed. Saturday Night opened at No. 7 with $3.4 million against a $30 million budget, while the biopic landed at No. 10 with $1.58 million, also failing to meet its $16 million production cost.

Implications for Joker 2

The DC Comics Sequel Struggles

The steep decline for Joker: Folie à Deux, starring Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga, is significant but not unexpected due to the predominantly negative reviews from critics and audiences. With a D CinemaScore and Rotten Tomatoes scores of 33% for critics and 32% for audiences, the film faces a challenging path forward.

With a budget of approximately $200 million, Joker 2 needs to reach $450 million to break even. However, by the end of its first week, the film had only garnered $121.5 million globally. While it fared slightly better internationally, it still fell short of expectations and initial projections. A less dramatic drop internationally could mitigate some losses, but without mirroring the original film’s 41.9% decline, the outlook remains bleak.

Weekend Box Office Insights

Terrifier 3’s Success

Despite Joker: Folie à Deux’s struggles, Terrifier 3’s performance suggests optimism for the October box office. While its opening weekend numbers are lower than Joker’s, Terrifier 3 operates in a different market segment. The slasher film, known for its graphic content, appeals to a narrower audience than the DC film, despite both carrying R ratings. Remarkably, with a modest $2 million production cost, Terrifier 3 has already turned a profit, marking it as another successful horror release in 2024.

Sources: Deadline & Box Office Mojo

Joker: Folie a Deux

  • PG-R
  • Drama
  • Crime
  • Musical

Joker: Folie à Deux is the sequel to Todd Phillips' critically acclaimed comic book thriller Joker. Reprising his Academy Award-winning performance as the failed comedian Arthur Fleck, Joaquin Phoenix revisits the iconic DC character alongside Lady Gaga, who makes her debut as Joker's lover Harley Quinn in this standalone continuity of the DC Universe.

Director
Todd Phillips
Release Date
October 4, 2024
Studio(s)
Warner Bros. Pictures
Distributor(s)
Warner Bros. Pictures
Writers
Todd Phillips, Scott Silver, Bob Kane, Paul Dini, Bill Finger, Bruce Timm, Jerry Robinson
Cast
Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beetz, Steve Coogan, Harry Lawtey, Leigh Gill, Jacob Lofland, Sharon Washington, Troy Fromin, Bill Smitrovich, John Lacy, Ken Leung
Character(s)
Arthur Fleck, Lee Quinzel, Jackie, Maryanne Stewart, Sophie Dumond, Paddy Meyers, Harvey Dent, Gary Puddles, The Jokester, Social Worker, E Ward Inmate (Troy Larkins), Judge Herman Rothwax, Arkham Guard
Runtime
138 Minutes
Franchise(s)
Joker
prequel(s)
Joker
Main Genre
Drama

Terrifier 3

  • PG-NOT RATED
  • Horror

Terrifier 3 follows Sienna and her brother as they attempt to move past the traumatic events of Art the Clown's Halloween massacre. As they embrace the Christmas season, Art reemerges, intent on turning their holiday into a nightmare, continuing his reign of terror.

Director
Damien Leone
Release Date
October 11, 2024
Studio(s)
Dark Age Cinema, Fuzz on the Lens Productions
Distributor(s)
Cineverse
Writers
Damien Leone
Cast
Lauren LaVera, David Howard Thornton, Antonella Rose, Elliott Fullam, Samantha Scaffidi, Margaret Anne Florence, Bryce Johnson, Alexa Blair Robertson, Mason Mecartea, Krsy Fox, Luciana VanDette, Clint Howard, Bradley Stryker, Daniel Roebuck, Chris Jericho, Tom Savini, Jason Patric, Alex Ross, Kailey Hyman, Kellen Raffaelo, Lisa Marie Falcone, Stephen Cofield Jr., Corrine Kelly, Joe Falcone, Peter Mitchell, Marie Maser, Jon Abrahams
Character(s)
Sienna, Art the Clown, Gabbie, Jonathan, Victoria Heyes, Jessica, Greg, Mia, Cole, Jennifer, Juliet, Smokey, Eddie, Santa / Charlie, Burke, Bystander, Michael, Mark, Brooke, Timmy, Dispatch, Officer Evans, Bag Lady, Dean, Cosplayer, Receptionist, Dennis
Runtime
125 Minutes
Franchise(s)
Terrifier
prequel(s)
Terrifier, Terrifier 2
Main Genre
Horror

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